Comments on: Illegal Labor Markets? http://www.nicholls.edu/bastiatsbastions/2007/04/16/illegal-labor-markets/ What is seen and what is unseen. Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:26:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mary DeLaune http://www.nicholls.edu/bastiatsbastions/2007/04/16/illegal-labor-markets/comment-page-1/#comment-2003 Mary DeLaune Wed, 09 May 2007 22:36:55 +0000 http://www.nicholls.edu/bastiatsbastions/2007/04/16/illegal-labor-markets/#comment-2003 It is very unfortunate that we have this problem. What is an employer suppose to do? They need workers and it seems like only the illegal immigrants want to work. I guess to a certain extend, employer's don't mind using the immigrants because they don't have to pay benefits. On the other hand, they are not guaranteed that the work will get done and will they come back the next day. I think most of the illegal immigrants would give employers a good days work because they need the money. These immigrants should not be in the Country so they are constantly faced with negative people not wanted them around. They have to find work on the street. Yhey don't go through the normal hiring procedure. They have to find a place where they would be allowed to stay. Society has already decided that all immigrants are up to no good. I heard someone complaining because they had approximately 20 or more immigrants staying in one room. There are issues on both sides of the fence. I guess you would have to weigh out the good and the bad and decide if we should allow them to stay in our Country. It is very unfortunate that we have this problem. What is an employer suppose to do? They need workers and it seems like only the illegal immigrants want to work. I guess to a certain extend, employer’s don’t mind using the immigrants because they don’t have to pay benefits. On the other hand, they are not guaranteed that the work will get done and will they come back the next day. I think most of the illegal immigrants would give employers a good days work because they need the money. These immigrants should not be in the Country so they are constantly faced with negative people not wanted them around. They have to find work on the street. Yhey don’t go through the normal hiring procedure. They have to find a place where they would be allowed to stay. Society has already decided that all immigrants are up to no good. I heard someone complaining because they had approximately 20 or more immigrants staying in one room. There are issues on both sides of the fence. I guess you would have to weigh out the good and the bad and decide if we should allow them to stay in our Country.

]]> By: Steve W http://www.nicholls.edu/bastiatsbastions/2007/04/16/illegal-labor-markets/comment-page-1/#comment-1928 Steve W Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:53:42 +0000 http://www.nicholls.edu/bastiatsbastions/2007/04/16/illegal-labor-markets/#comment-1928 It is worth pointing out that the employers using illegal cash labor are also illegally evading taxes, violating employment laws, using employees with no background checks that they know are felons (how do you say "Axe Murderer" in Mexican?) and most likely uninsured. The word for this is scabs hiring scabs. Plain & simple - crooks. By hiring these contractors you can become a scab and a crook with them. It is worth pointing out that the employers using illegal cash labor are also illegally evading taxes, violating employment laws, using employees with no background checks that they know are felons (how do you say “Axe Murderer” in Mexican?) and most likely uninsured.

The word for this is scabs hiring scabs.

Plain & simple – crooks.

By hiring these contractors you can become a scab and a crook with them.

]]> By: Alma Oubre http://www.nicholls.edu/bastiatsbastions/2007/04/16/illegal-labor-markets/comment-page-1/#comment-1923 Alma Oubre Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:08:47 +0000 http://www.nicholls.edu/bastiatsbastions/2007/04/16/illegal-labor-markets/#comment-1923 The managers of Lowe's and Home Depot should tell the illegal workers to leave. If the illegal workers are so worried about getting paid then they should get real jobs and sign contracts. To eliminate illegal workers, all the contractors have to do is not hire them. If contractors would only hire men or women who were not illegal then the illegal workers would want to get a real job. Since the contractors are not paying the illegal workers what they should be paying them, the illegal workers should want to sign contracts and make them not illegal and/or become legal. The managers of Lowe’s and Home Depot should tell the illegal workers to leave. If the illegal workers are so worried about getting paid then they should get real jobs and sign contracts. To eliminate illegal workers, all the contractors have to do is not hire them. If contractors would only hire men or women who were not illegal then the illegal workers would want to get a real job. Since the contractors are not paying the illegal workers what they should be paying them, the illegal workers should want to sign contracts and make them not illegal and/or become legal.

]]> By: Steve W http://www.nicholls.edu/bastiatsbastions/2007/04/16/illegal-labor-markets/comment-page-1/#comment-1911 Steve W Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:34:49 +0000 http://www.nicholls.edu/bastiatsbastions/2007/04/16/illegal-labor-markets/#comment-1911 Is it of any real concern if criminals (the illegal day laborers as on side of this criminality and the employers illegally hiring known illegal labor as the other side of the crime) exploit each other? The owners of the sites where these labor-prostitution crimes take place have their own reputations to consider as well. Screw taking care of the crooked contractors and obviously illegal day-laborers. They have their own economic interests, which include not being shunned by legitimate (read: more likely to be paying) customers and avoiding the negative attention (and like negative sales push) of ongoing law enforcement activities. A friend ended up with an assembly plant way up in Chaska Minnesota - a plant that had been staffed in 40+ of the 50 assembly jobs with laborers from a temporary agency. One morning several workers didn't show - out of what until then was a reliable hispanic workforce - so he called the agency for six replacements. They had only three to send over, who happened to not be hispanic, and who also when they walked in yelled "Immigration, Green Cards Please!" Thirty-two workers disappeared within minutes. Seems they had bought forged paperwork and were illegals, though disguised. The only plus side my friend could see is that their payroll deductions would stay with our government, potentially reducing the tax burden for us all. Nonetheless watching an illegal labor market go on is no different than watching a drug deal go down and not reporting it. Cheers, Steve Is it of any real concern if criminals (the illegal day laborers as on side of this criminality and the employers illegally hiring known illegal labor as the other side of the crime) exploit each other?

The owners of the sites where these labor-prostitution crimes take place have their own reputations to consider as well.

Screw taking care of the crooked contractors and obviously illegal day-laborers. They have their own economic interests, which include not being shunned by legitimate (read: more likely to be paying) customers and avoiding the negative attention (and like negative sales push) of ongoing law enforcement activities.

A friend ended up with an assembly plant way up in Chaska Minnesota – a plant that had been staffed in 40+ of the 50 assembly jobs with laborers from a temporary agency.

One morning several workers didn’t show – out of what until then was a reliable hispanic workforce – so he called the agency for six replacements.

They had only three to send over, who happened to not be hispanic, and who also when they walked in yelled “Immigration, Green Cards Please!”

Thirty-two workers disappeared within minutes.

Seems they had bought forged paperwork and were illegals, though disguised.

The only plus side my friend could see is that their payroll deductions would stay with our government, potentially reducing the tax burden for us all.

Nonetheless watching an illegal labor market go on is no different than watching a drug deal go down and not reporting it.

Cheers,

Steve

]]>