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	<title>Comments on: Will College Campuses Become Too Safe?</title>
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		<title>By: Steve W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 03:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Safety is an illusion at a point &amp; time casued by the temporary absence of known threats.

Until faculty &amp; students alike realize that they themselves, personally and if need be up-to-their-elbows in bloody fighting, are ultimately the ONLY defense they can really count on, the world will continue to see self-elective soft targets preyed upon.

When the VT Administration self-selected their faculty and students to be sitting ducks, these groups of people should have reacted.

They did not and many died without any legal opportunity to defend themselves.

It is stunning how the heros of VT stood out from the sheeple - the scared reactive  waiting to die, run away sorts are a sad background to the few who even with little more than their bodies tried to protect them.

Maybe not every college student has thought through scenarios like this.  I know that if a situation is such that I will likely die, it surely will NOT be trying to run away or cowering.

Then I&#039;ve mixed into my education the completion of self defense the ancient greeks considered worthy of including in the idea of University.  Theirs was a not an artficial world of defenseless sheeple, but included the physical &amp; self-defense regime to be effective in body as well as mind.

We&#039;ve lost this somehow.  And VT was a wake up call that we need it back, now.

Give us the ROTC men &amp; women, trained and armed.  

Why would we entrust an $12/hour security guard to carry a weapon while denying the same right to our societies brightest and best?  

Repeal the bad social engineering that has made every school a soft-target.

We will never stop the mentally ill who crave their &quot;death by cop&quot; like happened at VT, but keep me armed and in place and I&#039;ll do my best to make sure scum like our VT nutcase get their wish BEFORE innocents die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Safety is an illusion at a point &amp; time casued by the temporary absence of known threats.</p>
<p>Until faculty &amp; students alike realize that they themselves, personally and if need be up-to-their-elbows in bloody fighting, are ultimately the ONLY defense they can really count on, the world will continue to see self-elective soft targets preyed upon.</p>
<p>When the VT Administration self-selected their faculty and students to be sitting ducks, these groups of people should have reacted.</p>
<p>They did not and many died without any legal opportunity to defend themselves.</p>
<p>It is stunning how the heros of VT stood out from the sheeple &#8211; the scared reactive  waiting to die, run away sorts are a sad background to the few who even with little more than their bodies tried to protect them.</p>
<p>Maybe not every college student has thought through scenarios like this.  I know that if a situation is such that I will likely die, it surely will NOT be trying to run away or cowering.</p>
<p>Then I&#8217;ve mixed into my education the completion of self defense the ancient greeks considered worthy of including in the idea of University.  Theirs was a not an artficial world of defenseless sheeple, but included the physical &amp; self-defense regime to be effective in body as well as mind.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve lost this somehow.  And VT was a wake up call that we need it back, now.</p>
<p>Give us the ROTC men &amp; women, trained and armed.  </p>
<p>Why would we entrust an $12/hour security guard to carry a weapon while denying the same right to our societies brightest and best?  </p>
<p>Repeal the bad social engineering that has made every school a soft-target.</p>
<p>We will never stop the mentally ill who crave their &#8220;death by cop&#8221; like happened at VT, but keep me armed and in place and I&#8217;ll do my best to make sure scum like our VT nutcase get their wish BEFORE innocents die.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Dupre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Dupre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 16:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of your points are well backed up and valid. However, I think they miss the main issue behind what happened at Virginia Tech and at college campuses across the country. 

The true problem in the Virginia Tech shootings is that this campus in Blacksburg, VA is a &quot;gun free zone&quot;. Yes, even though the Bill of Rights protects our right to bear arms, founders Thomas Jefferson and George Mason publicly spoke over and over again of our right to bear arms, legislatures across this country find it necessary to ban weapons from school campuses, thus making them safer they say. Tell that to the families of the victims at Columbine and the Amish school in Pennsylvania last year. The truth is not allowing legal concealed carry laws on campuses is making schools less safe. How easily could the Virginia Tech massacre have been curbed if a student was on campus legally carrying a weapon and shot the crazed lunatic before he was able to kill more victims?

Its a simple premise. Mass murderers prefer the targets that can&#039;t shoot back. Who would of thought? School campuses have become to mass murderers what a buffet is to Rosie O&#039;Donnell. The so called gun free zones are only gun free for the students who follow the laws.

John Lott and Bill Landes found in a study of all public, multiple shootings in America between 1977 and 1999 that concealed carry laws have an extremely positive effect. States allowing citizens to legally carry concealed weapons deterred mass murders by 60% and the number of murders in these incidents were curtailed by 80%.

I think more Americans should be appalled at the legislatures across this country that continue to try and remove our right to bear arms, and appalled at the fact that some states and institution are under the illusion that they have the right to tell a law abiding citizen that they can&#039;t carry a gun. Who knows, one day a legal gun carrier could save your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of your points are well backed up and valid. However, I think they miss the main issue behind what happened at Virginia Tech and at college campuses across the country. </p>
<p>The true problem in the Virginia Tech shootings is that this campus in Blacksburg, VA is a &#8220;gun free zone&#8221;. Yes, even though the Bill of Rights protects our right to bear arms, founders Thomas Jefferson and George Mason publicly spoke over and over again of our right to bear arms, legislatures across this country find it necessary to ban weapons from school campuses, thus making them safer they say. Tell that to the families of the victims at Columbine and the Amish school in Pennsylvania last year. The truth is not allowing legal concealed carry laws on campuses is making schools less safe. How easily could the Virginia Tech massacre have been curbed if a student was on campus legally carrying a weapon and shot the crazed lunatic before he was able to kill more victims?</p>
<p>Its a simple premise. Mass murderers prefer the targets that can&#8217;t shoot back. Who would of thought? School campuses have become to mass murderers what a buffet is to Rosie O&#8217;Donnell. The so called gun free zones are only gun free for the students who follow the laws.</p>
<p>John Lott and Bill Landes found in a study of all public, multiple shootings in America between 1977 and 1999 that concealed carry laws have an extremely positive effect. States allowing citizens to legally carry concealed weapons deterred mass murders by 60% and the number of murders in these incidents were curtailed by 80%.</p>
<p>I think more Americans should be appalled at the legislatures across this country that continue to try and remove our right to bear arms, and appalled at the fact that some states and institution are under the illusion that they have the right to tell a law abiding citizen that they can&#8217;t carry a gun. Who knows, one day a legal gun carrier could save your life.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Boudreaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Boudreaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 06:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like all of the others, I also agree. I won&#039;t really add my two cents into the conversation about VT, but in the book The economics of public issues, the same thing was basically said about aircraft flights. How safe is too safe? I really liked that comment because it seems to go hand in hand with the marginal cost vs benefits idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like all of the others, I also agree. I won&#8217;t really add my two cents into the conversation about VT, but in the book The economics of public issues, the same thing was basically said about aircraft flights. How safe is too safe? I really liked that comment because it seems to go hand in hand with the marginal cost vs benefits idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Songy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Songy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 04:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree with all the comments. It is impossible to make a college campus 100 percent safe from incidents like this. College campuses cover to much ground. It could help to possibly have announcements over loud speakers. My comment is even though students are aware of attacks. They still have to evacuate without getting hurt. Also clearing out an entire campus would cause a lot of chaos. It is not rational to think that would work. The cell phone deal would never work due to the fact that every student would have to get a cell phone and keep it on in class. I&#039;m sure that would make every college professor happy. It is unfortunate that this happened to VT, but its hard to think that this could be completely avoided in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree with all the comments. It is impossible to make a college campus 100 percent safe from incidents like this. College campuses cover to much ground. It could help to possibly have announcements over loud speakers. My comment is even though students are aware of attacks. They still have to evacuate without getting hurt. Also clearing out an entire campus would cause a lot of chaos. It is not rational to think that would work. The cell phone deal would never work due to the fact that every student would have to get a cell phone and keep it on in class. I&#8217;m sure that would make every college professor happy. It is unfortunate that this happened to VT, but its hard to think that this could be completely avoided in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Siracusa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Siracusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 03:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have to agree with these points. VT could spend all the money in the world to buy new safety devices, but people will eventually find a way to work around it. The focus needs to spent on solving the problem before it gets this far. The shooter left warning signs and nothing was done effectivly. Hopefully this will make people more aware of warning signs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have to agree with these points. VT could spend all the money in the world to buy new safety devices, but people will eventually find a way to work around it. The focus needs to spent on solving the problem before it gets this far. The shooter left warning signs and nothing was done effectivly. Hopefully this will make people more aware of warning signs.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber Dardar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber Dardar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 01:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that you cannot totally protect a campus.  Even if the university got a device to send text messages or a loud speaker system, it still would not protect everyone.  First of all, not everyone has a cell phone, or carries it around waiting for it to go off.  Not everyone is in class rooms all the time to hear a loud speaker.  If a mad man/woman decides to do something irrational they will find a way to do it.  A college campus will never be able to be totally safe, no matter how much money is spent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that you cannot totally protect a campus.  Even if the university got a device to send text messages or a loud speaker system, it still would not protect everyone.  First of all, not everyone has a cell phone, or carries it around waiting for it to go off.  Not everyone is in class rooms all the time to hear a loud speaker.  If a mad man/woman decides to do something irrational they will find a way to do it.  A college campus will never be able to be totally safe, no matter how much money is spent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Whatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Whatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 18:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this completely. I believe we should spend the money people are talking about spending for these inefficient safety devices to increase our resources available for mental health. This would prevent events like this much more that text message and loud speaker notifications that tell you once an event has already occured. This will also cost schools alot less and be much more efficient. If the warning signs, such as, the writings, plays, and actions of the VT shooter were handled properly and he was forced to see someone by the university then he could have been dealt with and maybe prevented. But no matter what we do or how much money we spend there is no guarantee that this will never happen again. The safety precautions, such as, metal detectors and police in every room will only put a serious hinder on our freedom and make college life miserable for the law abiding students</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this completely. I believe we should spend the money people are talking about spending for these inefficient safety devices to increase our resources available for mental health. This would prevent events like this much more that text message and loud speaker notifications that tell you once an event has already occured. This will also cost schools alot less and be much more efficient. If the warning signs, such as, the writings, plays, and actions of the VT shooter were handled properly and he was forced to see someone by the university then he could have been dealt with and maybe prevented. But no matter what we do or how much money we spend there is no guarantee that this will never happen again. The safety precautions, such as, metal detectors and police in every room will only put a serious hinder on our freedom and make college life miserable for the law abiding students</p>
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